The Ellen Saga is a notable chapter in Josh's life that unfolded primarily through the latter months of 2019 and into early 2020. This segment of his life reveals complexities surrounding his relationships, personal aspirations, and social interactions, specifically with a person named Ellen, whom Josh refers to as an “of-age, alternative woman.”

Ellen, portrayed as a goth woman with black hair and green eyes, was the daughter of Josh's friend Angie. Josh’s relationship with Ellen became a subject of interest among his viewers, starting around early 2019. There were speculations, largely fueled by the online community, regarding Josh's intentions, suggesting he might be attempting to forge a closer relationship with Ellen due to her fitting his aesthetic preference in partners.

In late 2019, Josh purchased a Christmas dinner for Ellen's family, funded by his earnings from YouTube AdSense, expressing his satisfaction in being able to support friends during the festive season. This gesture reportedly cost over a thousand dollars. Despite this act, Ellen clarified to Josh that she was involved romantically with another person but valued maintaining a friendship with him. Josh presented an appearance of being content with this platonic arrangement and emphasized the importance of friendship over romantic advances, but it became obvious that this was a coping mechanism for Josh.

The dynamic between Josh and Ellen became particularly contentious when details of their interactions began circulating on social media platforms, chiefly through live streams. Josh faced accusations from his viewer base regarding his feelings towards Ellen, which he denied, asserting that any romantic suggestions were non-existent and strictly platonic intentions governed his actions.

A notable incident involved a contest Josh hosted, where participants could win a signed copy of his album and a wand created by him. The central motivation for this competition was to raise funds for a charity that Ellen supported – the Old Friends Senior Dog Sanctuary. This event was met with mixed reactions, where some suggested that Josh's involvement was an attempt to win favor with Ellen, while others viewed it as an act of genuine philanthropy.

In early January 2020, discussions around Ellen were partially eclipsed by Josh's efforts to obtain tickets for a Black Veil Brides concert, which was among Ellen's favorite bands. Josh planned to gift these tickets to Ellen for her birthday, discussing his intentions to provide a memorable experience for her. Despite his eagerness to attend the concert with her, Ellen’s relationship status with another individual led to ambiguities about who would accompany her, which Josh accepted without public objection.

The saga seemingly concluded with the successful fundraising for the Old Friends Senior Dog Sanctuary, with over $200 collected, fulfilling the target set alongside the contest stipulations. Regardless of Josh's ulterior motives or the intervention of his trolls, the involvement and responses from Josh's viewers played a pivotal role in achieving this goal.

Josh still brings up Ellen occasionally, though it still appears to be a point of pain for him.

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